Hence for Aristotle as for Plato, the natural state or the state as such is the ideal state, and the ideal state is the starting-point of political inquiry.
In the ideal state power will be given to the man with most knowledge of the good; in other states to the men who are most truly capable of achieving that end which the citizens have set themselves to pursue.
Aristotle in his account of the ideal state seems to waver between two ideals.
How he longed, in those days, for the ideal friend who would thoroughly understand him, to whom he would be able to say all, and whom he imagined he had found at various periods in his life from his earliest youth onwards.
Already at the beginning of this history I hinted at the reasons which led my brother to select a Persian as the incarnation of his ideal of the majestic philosopher.
"Zarathustra" is my brother's most personal work; it is the history of his most individual experiences, of his friendships, ideals, raptures, bitterest disappointments and sorrows.
Tell her that, if she had mingled a little trust with her conception of the ideal, much heartache might have been avoided.
"Tell the gentleman that I need not repeat to him a description of my ideals. He knows what they have been and what they still are.
"The ideal," he admits,  "poisons for me all imperfect possession"; and again, "The Buddhist tendency in me blunts the faculty of free self-government, and weakens the power of action.
when will the Church to which I belong in heart rise into being?" To many at least of those who can detect the ideal through the disturbing circumstances which belong to all actual institutions in the world, it was already there.
Fact is corrupting--it is we who correct it by the persistence of our ideal."
And when a hazy conception of this ideal was attained, it was only by a further effort that the question of the teachableness of virtue could be resolved.
But virtue is not taught, and therefore in this higher and ideal sense there is no virtue and no knowledge.
We seem to find that the ideal of knowledge is irreconcilable with experience.
'Conquest of Granada', but still a passion, and I should dread a little to read the piece now, lest I should disturb my old ideal
of its beauty.